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The Accrescent Podcast 178. Sheri Salata - From Oprah to Entrepreneur: Creating a Life of Joy & Authenticity

THE ACCRESCENT™ PODCAST EPISODE 178

Sheri Salata From Oprah to Entrepreneur: Creating a Life of Joy and Authenticity

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In this episode of the Accrescent podcast, Leigh Ann welcomes special guest Sheri Salata, an author, speaker, founder, and former executive producer of The Oprah Winfrey Show. Sheri discusses her journey as a late bloomer in entrepreneurship and the pivotal transitions in her career. The conversation delves into personal growth, overcoming limiting beliefs, and finding alignment and ease in business practices. They also touch on the structure and benefits of Sheri’s Prosper Network, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, consistent personal practices, and a loving relationship with one’s business. Sheri shares insights on how to balance complexity and simplicity in entrepreneurship, highlighting the value of staying engaged and inspired.

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Hello, happy Monday. Welcome back to the Accrescent podcast. I’m your host, Leigh Ann Lindsay. Today we have a very, very special guest on the Accrescent podcast, Sheri Salata. There’s a little bit of backstory here because I have been a part of Sheri Salata’s The Prosper Network, her The Support System, which is now just the Sheri Salata Network, and it’s such an amazing resource for personal development.

More specifically, the Prosper Network is for female entrepreneurs, and so it’s so beautiful and kind of full circle to be able to have her come on the show and, and talk so vulnerably and insightfully about her journey, her story, entrepreneurship, the lessons we’ve both learned thus far along the journey.

But for any who are not familiar, Sheri Salata is an American author, speaker, and producer. She is the former executive producer of The [00:01:00] Oprah Winfrey Show and co president of Oprah Winfrey Network. So she brings a wealth of experience, having worked so closely with Oprah Winfrey for so many years. And she is also the author of her memoir, The Beautiful No, which is how I was introduced to her and her work and her membership, I absolutely love this book and if you haven’t read it yet, it is a must read.

And then she’s the founder of the Prosper Network, the Sheri Salata Network, where there is so, so much goodness going on in there. We talk a bit more towards the end specifically about what is the Prosper Network, how is that supporting female entrepreneurs. And I’ll put a link below where you guys can learn more specifically about.

That part of her network. She is such a light. She you can just tell when someone is living in their authenticity and their alignment There is just a magnetism that comes out of that and that [00:02:00] is exactly what Sheri is just so magnetic. She’s the type of person who I just want to be in her aura, in her presence.

We don’t even need to talk. Can I just be kind of near you in your aura in some way? So this was such a thrill, such a joy, and I hope you guys absolutely love this conversation. I also think it’s worth saying that even if you’re not an entrepreneur, there are so many life lessons here for all of us. That we talk about this in the beginning that yes, we’re talking about entrepreneurship specifically in some ways but the principles and the ideas and the rituals that help us be successful entrepreneurs also extend to so many other areas of life So I really encourage you to tune in even if entrepreneurship is not where you are at right now So, please enjoy this conversation with Sheri Salata.

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It’s fun to have you step into my world a little bit because I’m in your world quite often. I know. Isn’t this wild? Oh my gosh. It’s so special. It’s such a thrill. I have been, like, preparing for this for a couple of weeks now and just been so excited. It’s one of those things I’ve been so [00:05:00] excited for where I find myself kind of zoning out in that liminal space and being like, Oh no, no, no.

I still need to live life as I wait for this super exciting thing to happen. That is so nice. Well, we’re going to have a great conversation today. I know. Well, I think what would be fun to start off with is introducing actually the audience and I’ll probably do this a little bit more in the intro as well, but how I found you, which I don’t even know if you know, I found you through your book, of course, The Beautiful No.

And I have to say, I feel like you’re going to know the value of this compliment. That book for me is up there with big magic. Wow. Oh my God, please, Liz. Gilbert? Liz? The Queen? Like two books I feel like I could go back to and just read over and over, but I read that book, Joined Your Network, and then I actually didn’t even realize how recently, that was over a year ago now, yeah, over a year ago, um, 2023.

You had launched the Prosper Network. Yeah. And so I [00:06:00] had kind of just got in, not even realizing how new that was even for you and your already established community. So that was super, super neat. But we’re going to be talking about kind of entrepreneurship and some of the different areas here. That’s my favorite thing to talk about because it’s changed my life dramatically.

Well, and as I was preparing for this, what I was thinking about is, yes, we’re talking about entrepreneurship in a specific sense, but I think really the undertones of what we’re going to be talking about is finding alignment and authenticity. Oh, for sure. And for some people that looks like expressing themselves through entrepreneurship, but I think the premises we’re going to be talking about here of what are those underlying things that hold us back.

back. What are the continual things we need to be aware of and overcome to move forward? Those are principles that apply to all areas of life. Oh, for sure. For sure. And, and, you know, what I say to people, I mean, I look at my own pattern. I was a staff worker, [00:07:00] uh, for. 35 years of my career. So it might also have to do with the season of your life.

You know what you’re ready for, what you want, what, um, you know, being, being aligned with the mission of a company. Is, is also very instructive and, you know, I, I attribute, I have so many skill sets from those experiences, but it’s the entrepreneurship thing. I got to say that is true liberation. I think well, and on that thread, what a mirror though, what a mirror for where we still have.

triggers and wounds and limiting beliefs holding us back, but I think that’s also the gift in it. So I’m jumping ahead. What I would, I think, love to start with is I was listening to some podcasts you had done before preparing for today. And one of the things I’ve heard you say is that you were a late bloomer.

And that was so expansive and [00:08:00] inspiring for me because I, I have often just felt like there’s this timeline. And you look at people in the media who are 20 and 23 and achieving all these big things and accolades and you just start to feel already behind. And I think when I think of the other women in the prosper network, it’s a lot of women who are making a big life pivot and they’re not in their twenties, you know, they’re in their, their forties, their fifties, their sixties.

So I’d love to hear this late bloomer. Yes. Well, first of all, I don’t know how I, there was no social media when I was late blooming. So I can’t even imagine if I, I, it was just for me, it would be like the cover of time or something, but for, for y’all with social media and let’s remember everybody’s putting their ideal foot forward or idealized foot forward.

So it’s very easy when you, to feel like you’ve fallen behind or you’re not in the same. Um, pace maybe [00:09:00] as everyone else, exactly. It’s very easy to feel that. And I would say as a late bloomer, Oh my God, such a late bloomer. I’ve been, I’ve been a late bloomer more than once though. Let me think about that.

Is that true? Yes. I can look back on those specific times. Like how about this? I started at an entry level job at the Oprah Winfrey show when I was 35. So I’d already had a gazillion jobs and done many, many things and tried to work my way up the toy store chain and the 7 Eleven chain. And you know, I, I had tried to be a lot of things because I was more interested.

I felt like I had to get that sewn up. What are you? Right. What do you do? What is your to do going to be that’s going to take you right to retirement? And so I think that’s that that took me down some [00:10:00] crazy roads. Um, and I certainly didn’t have the confidence in myself that it was going to be something really grand and really amazing.

Um, so I just tried to make the best of wherever I was at. Um, Um, what I can see now looking back is that had I had access to what everybody has access to now, which is, wow, um, spiritual enlightenment, um, Meditation yoga, the top spiritual teachers on the planet doing zooms, you know, all day long, I think, and the acceptance of therapy and coaching.

And I just think it would have been just a much easier road because somebody would have had the smarts to point out to me. Let’s make sure you’re happy. Let’s make sure you’re happy. [00:11:00] Let’s not worry so much about what the role is or what the doing pieces. Let’s just make sure you’re happy. Let’s make sure that’s true.

And I would have, um, lined myself up a little differently. So yeah, late bloomer, but when I finally get it, I get it good. Yeah, I can speak to that. Absolutely. Well, and just what it makes me think of is we hear it all the time. Like it’s never too late. It’s never too late to change or pursue something. But I think what’s missed in that is the reality is sometimes it is too late to make certain things happen, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth pursuing what is more aligned for you, right?

Maybe at You’re not going to be the executive producer of maybe, I don’t know, maybe, maybe the real is really not too late for anything, but the point I’m trying to make here is I think it’s, it’s more about, and you kind of said this in essence, it’s more about that pursuit and, you [00:12:00] know, I do unconscious work and so it’s all about, like, I think really my, my relationship with my inner self and my outer self and I think our inner selves is just like, I just want to be seen and heard by you.

And so even if you’re pursuing something and it doesn’t totally hash out or shake out the way you want, I think there’s such a, a healing and an alignment and a peace that comes from that, where that inner self is like, maybe it didn’t work out perfectly, but thank you so much for hearing me and acting on it.

Well, let me lay another perspective on you too. We don’t know. All the magic that can be summoned. We don’t know. I have here, and I particularly have done this this year. I’m not in charge of the details anymore. I don’t want to be because I’ve done all the detail. He shimmy taily. I wanted to look like this and I wanted to do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

And then a year ago, I, or [00:13:00] a year and a half ago, I ended up moving some, but somewhere that never would have been on my vision board. Which, and now I’m in a place where I think this is where I’m going to live the rest of my life for sure. I all of a sudden have a horse. I never had a horse or was an equine person of any kind, other than admiring them and loving animals.

So I, and, and more things keep lining up like that for me. So now what I see is my inner being, my soul, that with that spiritual work I do knows how to do it. Everything that’s going to light me up in a way that even I don’t. Mm hmm. In a way that even I don’t. So what I focus on now is how am I going to line up to that magnetic attractive place where I’m just drawing things in where the doors open and the universe can deliver.

All these wonderful things to delight me [00:14:00] ideas, insights, inspiration, um, chance meetings, uh, new opportunities and things like that. So taking myself out of the details has allowed me. To be willing to be surprised. So when, when you take that perspective, it isn’t like something didn’t work out, right? It isn’t that it’s just that something better is in process.

And sometimes you have to, I think we want like, what’s the path, what’s the one path I’m supposed to walk. And what we don’t realize is like, maybe you were supposed to start down this path, but only because. There’s a tangent path that comes off of that path. That you could never have found if you hadn’t started here.

Totally. For sure. Absolutely. And so I, that’s what I found is where I, I’m following what lights me up. I’m following what’s calling [00:15:00] to me. Yep. And it has sort of been this like this path that kind of led to this other path that led to this other path that’s now got me on so much more alignment that will continue to kind of flow and pivot as I go.

There is a mystical tapestry. That is the story of our lives. And if we will do the inner work and the managing our mood work, there’s no telling what wonders can unfold. And I see that so clearly now that. I don’t want to get in the way of it, you know, with my small thinking and I’m a big dreamer. I mean, I could dream big and I’ve made some big dreams come true, but even so I am a human being.

So I’ve got my upper limits. You know, I’ve got my upper limits. I hit my head on the ceiling all the time, and I don’t want to be limited by my own limited 3D vision. I want [00:16:00] the universe in partnership with my soul, with my inner being, and ultimately with me along for the ride, free and unfettered to just really make the magic.

Yeah. A part of what I want to get into there is that transition from executive producer of the Oprah Winfrey show to writing your own book to launching this online network and some of the potential fallbacks or limiting beliefs you had. You had to work through to even make all of that happen. But a question I was thinking about as I was listening to some of your other podcasts was you were talking about You were on this Oprah Winfrey ride, you were flying high, meeting so many amazing people.

In so many ways, success was stamped all over your life, and yet there were some areas that were really being neglected. And you talk about this super vulnerably in your book, but the question that came up to me was if the show hadn’t have ended, do you [00:17:00] think, how long do you think you would have stayed and do you think you would have ever left?

Well, I’m going to start by saying the show would have ended it. There’s no possibility it couldn’t have in this metaphorical question. Yes. So everything has, you know, the, the, the landscape of media was already starting to change so drastically. Um, where, you know, It was harder to carve out your, your niche and more challenging to, um, well, anyway, that’s a conversation for another day, but I would, I w I would say that.

Um, there, there, there would have been, as Oprah liked to say, there’s a calling on your life. The calling on my life would have called me to a, to an entrepreneurial path ultimately because I had done my service. I had done my service. Um, I had learned so much. Um, I, it opened up a whole, [00:18:00] you know, one of the greatest benefits of that job for me was being exposed to develop a, a spiritual life.

And so. You know, for which I will always be a marvel at that, that a job in media of all things could just really crack you open to the opportunity, um, to live, uh, what is very much, I, I, I think of myself as a spiritual pioneer. Now I want to be on the leading edge always. Of where thought has gone and what’s possible.

So I really credit it to that. So I think I would have been called because at a certain point on, you know, regular TV, you know, you’re not doing spiritual conversations every day in the commercial world. And I think, you know, I would have been, I would have been. Done with my makeover producing and my, you know, you get a car, you get a car that, that, that would have been [00:19:00] less interesting to me.

So I would have wanted to, my, my, as my own spirit was growing, you know, my work would have had to grow too. Completely. To express what’s now needing to be expressed. Yes. Yeah. I think there’s a kind of an underlying assumption sometimes that once you’ve done, gosh, just super high performing things, like managing an Oprah Winfrey show, this idea that once that chapter ended, you could do anything.

It’s so easy. You just about writing a book. No big deal. Launching a network. No big deal. And I want to ask, was that true for you? Or was it, is it more realistic to go? No, you had, because of maybe the level of vulnerability in some of those things, were there limiting beliefs you had to overcome or something you had to overcome?

Always, always, you always have a new thing that you have to look at. I mean, for sure. And you know, that That, that opportunity to helm that show that was on, on [00:20:00] the, the work of many, many, many very talented producers who had come before. So that was like, you know, stepping into a built situation and then seeing, okay, what could we do with it?

How could we support Oprah in making those last five years that I was EP, um, sparkle? And I think the last year was particularly sensational. Um, and so, yeah. And then so you move on to your next thing. I mean, writing a book, a memoir, for God’s sakes, that, that is a task. Um, and I found that extremely difficult, much more so than I thought I would.

And. Um, it was an emotional journey. I, I would, I missed two deadlines with my publisher. I was like, I wanted to quit a million times. Um, and then, you know, when it was done and I was. [00:21:00] With people, with readers talking about it, it was so satisfying to my soul. I was like, Oh, this is like a healing. This is like a healing.

It’s like, here I am and, and you’re telling me your story. And it was really, it was really a beautiful, I kind of look at that book experience is kind of the end, the, the, the end of all of that. before my real new life began. Yeah. And it just was like, so, so beautiful in that respect. Yeah. And how I kind of know a little bit of the answer just because I’m in your world so much.

And I hear you’re speaking so much, but for the audience, how, how do you overcome you specifically overcome some of those? Like, I wanted to quit so many times. This is so confronting. I have the dream, but there’s barriers to this. I’ll give an example of myself. I think of when I launched my [00:22:00] practice four years ago, Self sabotage, self sabotage, self sabotage, and to the point where I’d have a full day of clients and I would somehow manifest them all canceling last minute because I was so effing scared to sit with them.

But I was able to realize, first of all, I, I’m helping facilitate this deep subconscious work for them. Right. I must be doing it on myself. And so I spent a year. You know, every, every week doing this Evox therapy on myself and really trying to understand what are the roots of this self sabotage. Where is this going back to?

I, I always say self sabotage is just self protection, but from what, and that’s what I was on a mission to figure out. But if I hadn’t done that, I think I could say 1000%, I wouldn’t be where I’m at today with my practice. I don’t even know if the practice would exist if I didn’t. Face and confront some of those things threatening to [00:23:00] hold me back.

Well, I’m going to tell you, here’s the great news for you. As you get older, that’s less an issue, you know, because part of that is. There’s a little bit of the old, what are people going to say? What are people going to think? Who do I think I am? All that kind of stuff at a certain age, you’re kind of like, you know, um, you, you care less about that.

Um, so I’m trying to think if anything’s got my knickers in a knot lately, um, what, what you do to dig in and go, I know I’m trying to think. You face it so much. You’re kind of like, and what’s the next thing I need to overcome? And what’s the next thing I need to look at? And yeah, I mean, I guess it’s like in my membership groups, I’m talking about it all the time about my, my stumbles, my falls.

Um, you know, um, I have an incident in my life. I’ll bring it right to the table and talk about what I got [00:24:00] from that and how I saw that I needed to see that situation differently. Listen, there is no dealing with fear, but through it, there’s just no dealing it. And listen, there’s plenty of people who live perfectly lovely lives right till they’re 85 who never walked through their fear door.

There’s the, and they have their grandchildren and you know, they have, you know, You know, maybe they don’t dwell on what could have been and they’re, you know, and they, they would say that was good enough. Then there’s some of us who can’t say, speak the words, I’ll settle for good enough. And for, for us.

I’m one of those people, you got to walk through the fear, got to do it. You got to walk through it. You got to, you got to coach yourself. You have to soothe yourself. What would you say to somebody you loved who was [00:25:00] terrified to do something that you knew they really wanted to do? You would coach them.

You would soothe them. You would tell them how wonderful they are. Um, you would tell them how great they’re going to be. You would tell them how prepared they are. You would soothe and coach them through it. So, I have become a great self soother in that when I start to feel some anxiety or anxiousness, take a couple deep breaths and I literally will put my hands on my thighs and I’ll just pat myself like there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, uh, because I want to be somebody who walks through that door.

Yeah, you’re making me think of this book. I read it’s called how to not give a fuck. Yeah, and the author He makes a really great point that has stuck with me ever since where I think our subconscious makes it very black and white Ooh Pursuing that big scary dream that looks hard But if I stay where I am, that’s so [00:26:00] much easier.

Yeah, the point he makes is the reality is both are hard Pursuing the dream, facing your fears, working through them, exposing yourself, being seen, that’s hard. Both are work. Sitting in misalignment and dis ease and a lack of fulfillment is also very hard. And so he says, pick your heart. It’s going to be hard either way.

That’s true. And I’m going to give you another perspective on that or make it easy. You know, one of the things that I’ve realized by my, about myself, so I’ve been talking about it up a storm, um, with, with my peeps, which is, I came to see how I have. Appropriated the language of difficulty, you know what the problem is.

This was challenging. Oh, that’s so hard. Oh, I’m trying the trying trap. I’m [00:27:00] trying to, I’m trying to, I’m trying to, you know, and then you have, then you try to squeak through with, well, it’s a challenge, not a problem, but the universe still knows. It’s still the energy of difficulty and challenge and too hard and this and that and you know, when I really, really, really accepted the fact that the universe is just fulfilling my requests, that when I say, gosh, this is so hard, yes, and here’s more.

Yes. And here’s more than I’m like, you better, you better change that up, girl. And so I decided also this year, this is your, this is a very simple year for me, but it’s really powerful. I am going to adopt the language of easy. And even if it’s not completely authentic. Right in this minute, I’m going to practice it enough.

So it becomes that I’m going to practice it. I’m going to practice it over and over and over. I’m going to practice like it’s easy for me to sit for [00:28:00] meditation. It’s easy for me to make time for that. It’s easy for me to do my practices throughout the day. It’s easy for me to take, you know, 10 minutes and just really sit in silence.

It’s really easy for me to find the time to do this. And even sometimes when I’m like, no, it isn’t. No, it isn’t. You know, if you have that little, you’re, I call it your slippery character. No, it isn’t. You just keep practicing through it because we’ve got some patterns. We’ve got to overlay some new patterns over old patterns.

And so what do you prefer? What do you want? What kind of life you want to live? You want to live in ease and flow, or do you want to live in struggle and challenge? Cause I lived in struggle and challenge for a long time and I struggled my way up to the top of the mountain. And I would say I should have done it the easy way.

Hmm. It’s funny. I feel like sometimes this is where the ego comes in too. Cause I’ve noticed this in myself that when I start to get [00:29:00] busy, yeah, I feel really important, Sheri. Don’t you? You’re so busy. And it goes against every facet. I’m an introvert. My human design is like Manny Gen. It’s like, I love.

I’m a generator and, and, and it’s funny because a manny gen is like meant to actually do a lot of things, but my nature is I want to do a lot of things, but I want to do it all from this place of peace, calm, and composure. And so when I find, when I find things getting busy, there’s an unease that comes into me, but I also noticed simultaneously my ego being like, yeah, I’m so, I’m so important.

I’m so special. Yes. And I have to check that. And good for you for realizing that, because I thought Sherry, she’s so busy Salada. I thought that that was my crowning glory. You know, that people just know, I’m like that caricature from, I think the movie was American and president, where he’s like, people know that I’m only [00:30:00] available on a, on a five minute cancellation business.

But my friends were like that. I’m like, I’ll try to be there. And I’ll, I’ll let you know if I can’t come, I’ll probably about five minutes before. And I was that busy. And I did. I hear what you’re saying. There’s the trap of thinking that busy is connected to what matters. And real meaning and a real sense of importance and quite the opposite really is true.

You know, really the, the person who has found a way to carve out space for the things that really matter is the person who is, has, has a really great relationship with importance. You kind of alluded to this saying this year, I can’t remember the exact words, but something to the effect of this year’s maybe.

A little slower or less simpler, simpler. It’s so funny. Cause that’s actually, I was talking with, um, [00:31:00] Melissa and Angela about this saying like, I really only have three goals. This year, that’s it. And, and they’re so simple and it’s mainly about consistency, but this idea of, yeah, it’s, and I think that’s really good, especially as it comes to entrepreneurship, right?

I empathize so much. And I hear this a lot in the prosper network when we’re on speed networking, it’s, it’s this feeling, and maybe it’s also marketing that’s convincing us of this, that it’s like more, more, more, more, more. What’s the next course I need to take? What’s the next ad campaign I need to run?

What’s the next this? That is so funny. When I left the staff corporate world and, and, and was first getting to know, I’m like, what is this digital marketing? I mean, I, uh, ran a gigantic marketing team. I had graphics departments and promotions departments and, you know, writers and producers and all kinds [00:32:00] of marketing.

I didn’t know what digital marketing was. And so, uh, people started inviting me to their like masterminds and events. And I was literally having a hard help palpitations because it’s like. I don’t know what you’re talking about, like funnels and bibbidi bobs and this and that. I don’t even know what you’re talking about.

And they’re like, you haven’t done that yet. And you haven’t done that. And you don’t have a 30 day drip into this. I’m like, I don’t know what you’re talking about. And I was just like, Oh, You know, just feeling so behind and like I never was going to get it and, Oh my God, that’s so much work and what even is this?

And I have come to see, I’m always going to do it my way. I’m not going to just take somebody else’s systems. I’m going to learn what I can and I’m going to do it my way in, in, in the tone and the voice and the pace that, that feels right for me. So I hear you. It [00:33:00] is very difficult not to get caught up in all that as an entrepreneur.

Yeah. The busyness, the complexity that what we were saying before it, it should be hard. It needs to be hard. And then how are we, you know, how is it becoming self fulfilling prophecy? Yes. At one point I was doing a 12 week live course, which I loved. I love doing that 12 week live course. A six month mastermind taking women to Italy for workshop experiences.

I also had a, like, uh, plus my membership plus, and I was like, I do not want to, I don’t want this kind of busy ness. So, but what happens is, is like, you know what you should do, you know what you should do, and you know what you should do, and you know what, you know, it’d be great. And so I have spent, I would say the last 18 months just stripping it all away, not doing that anymore, not doing that anymore.

If I’m a true generator now, I’m [00:34:00] in complete responding. If I don’t feel a surge in my soul, I’m like, I’m not doing it. And so that has just lightened everything up. And just stripped it away. So now I’m just focusing on showing up to have the conversation I want to have to do the personal growth work I want to do with women around the world and in the simplest way.

And. In ease and flow, and I just feel so happy right now about that. So a brand that I just discovered this year and have been absolutely obsessed with it is the fullest saffron latte. I actually had Nikki Bostwick. The founder of the fullest on the podcast that episode is 156 For any who want to go back and listen to it and i’ll make sure it’s linked in the show notes below as well the episode but After I had this conversation with her.

I [00:35:00] immediately ran out and bought The saffron latte powder and it is so delicious I drink it every single evening and it’s become such a beautiful ritual for me because I’m such a beverage girlie I love having different beverages to drink throughout the day, but to also have something in the evening that has no caffeine Such clean ingredients, but what you’ll guys hear if you haven’t listened to that podcast episode yet is that the studies have found recently that Saffron at a certain dose at a certain dose is just as effective as Prozac for helping Anxiety, depression, ADHD, and so it’s something that I have absolutely loved myself.

I feel like I’ve noticed a difference in my general countenance being even more uplifted, calm, grounded, especially for me in this time of a lot of change. And it’s something I have been recommending so much lately to clients, to some of my cancer patients, because of [00:36:00] how clean it is. And there’s so many other benefits out It’s super anti inflammatory, anti cancerous, but it’s become kind of my product of the year that I’m just like, oh my god, how can I get everyone to try this?

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Oh my gosh. But this is also so expansive because what I hear in that too is you’re always chiseling, you’re always editing, you’re always making more alignment. And again, for, for so many of us entrepreneurs, this feeling of I’ve got to have the thing right from the [00:37:00] get go and it’s sort of like, you know.

The, the support system, now the Sherry Salata Network, it’s been an evolution. What it was when you started is so different, not, not so, so different now, but it’s different now. It’s different. Chiseling. Yeah. And I think that’s a great way to say it. Yes, exactly. You’re always, you’re always in that you’re, you’re always the, your hands are in the clay and I mean, I had two failed businesses even before this, you know, two like things that took a lot of time and I was like, this isn’t it.

Let me get out of this. This is not it. This is not lighting me up at all, but again, that’s kind of my personality, a former version of me that had to have the answer before I’d even done any thinking about it. Like let me just get this solved and let me get this wrapped up where now I’m like, let’s see what it is.

Let’s see what happens. I am so much more comfortable in the [00:38:00] nebulous mist now. Totally. Yes. I just love it. I’m like, what’s going to happen? What’s this going to be? What am I going to be doing in April? I’m not even sure, you know, like where am I going to be led? What, where’s my guidance going to take me?

And once I’ve done that, simplified my business, made it super, super simple. I don’t do anything I don’t want to do and then really let make space for the guidance. Do the personal work that keeps me in alignment. There’s nothing else to do. Yeah. And it is. It’s, it’s simple. Yeah. Not as complex as we are marketed to believe.

No. So don’t get caught. You really cannot get caught up in all that. It’s almost like this. Go to the buffet of programs and ideas and just pluck out your little pieces that speak to you. [00:39:00] But you know, it’s a, it’s, it’s not a one size fits all thing for sure. I want to get practical here for a second. This wasn’t in what I sent you, but it’s coming up for me.

And then there’s another question that just came up for me too, but simplifying delegating practically, I would love to know, even for me, what this looks like, and I think for all of us being able to kind of see for you, how that looks and it’s not that it’s going to be an exact copy and paste for me.

What else, but what that has looked like for you is that I have an assistant, I have someone who does this. I dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Yes. So here, here’s what it looks like for me. So at one point, not all that long ago, I probably had underneath my purview to have an 800 people. Always had two, I had two assistants for about.

Um, 10 years because they couldn’t work 24 hours a day. Like I could work [00:40:00] 24 hours a day, but you know, we were managing overtime or something. So I always had two wonderful assistants. That was, they were like my, I mean, I wouldn’t have had a life. They paid my bills. They went to the bank for me. I mean, I couldn’t leave during daytime hours.

So they did, they, they wrapped my Christmas presents. They were amazing. They talked to my parents, gave them updates. They were amazing. So then, you know, it’s hard to get out of that. Thinking where you need all these different people doing things and then so introduction to the idea of contract workers You know people who work with lots of different people and you you know pay for a certain amount of their time And so, you know learning more about that, which I think that’s where we’re all gonna end up by the way, that work is gonna look like, that we’re all gonna be our own little companies deciding how we spend our time and, and for what [00:41:00] amount.

That’s what I think it’s gonna be. And so basically what happened is I overhired too many people and then all of a sudden I’ve gotta manage it. Uhhuh . I’m now I’m managing personalities. I’m managing styles. I’m managing that, you know, which I wasn’t really interested in doing. So little bit by little bit, I just.

Just let things, how would I say it? Like somebody would leave to do something else and I wouldn’t replace them. I just moved some things around. Somebody else would leave, didn’t replace them. Like I didn’t need a full time assistant. Now I had to get used to running things in my own life again, but I, I didn’t, I don’t want the cumbersomeness of that.

I want my, for me, this is not true for everybody. For my organization. I want it to be light as a feather. I want it to be mobile. [00:42:00] I want it to be easy. I want to be able to pivot really easily and lucky for me. Um, I met Angela four years ago who is remarkable. Yeah, Angela can do a million things. She can do a million things and she knows everything and she can do a million things and um, her mission, it’s, I’m very lucky that her mission in life.

Appears to have a nice space for me. Yeah. . And then she brings on Melissa and I had brought Courtney from my world, um, who’s back with us doing some stuff now in the membership. She’s our membership, our, uh, network membership network concierge. Um, and so, and then I have a fantastic. customer service coordinator.

He’s kind of like a production coordinator, customer service guy. He works part time. [00:43:00] And that’s all we need. Yeah. I love the idea of a Swiss army knife. We, for some reason we’ve become so like hyper skilled in one thing. And I’m like, I really don’t want that. I want that person who can do like 50 things and I’ll pay you really to do that.

Yes. Yes. But to that end of like, then I only have To work with this one person and yeah, when they are energies together and all the things. Yeah. And just like everything else I’m going to say, once you, if you focus on alignment, if you focus on managing your mood, managing your energy, your set vibrational set point, you can call that in, you can call what you need right to you.

It’s when you’re like. In angst about it, like, I feel like I spent, Oh, geez, 45 percent of my life in a corner angsting about how I was going to solve all this stuff. And my soul was probably right over here going, Well, let me know when you’re ready. Yeah, let me know [00:44:00] when you’re ready for some guidance.

And so now I turn to that first. I’m like, okay, here’s some things that need some inspiration, some solutions, some something. And, and I will work on managing my receptivity. Right to the guidance. I will work on managing that. How do I do that? I meditate. I get enough sleep. I, you know, put my hands on my heart at noon and I might just sit there and take eight deep breaths.

I might do some reading, you know, something that really lifts me up. Um, something that is very. soulful and provocative. And I, you know, do might light a candle. I do a lovely morning magic little ceremony for myself to start my day. I do an evening ceremony to kind of shut the day down. Um, and those things I have [00:45:00] learned are non negotiable if I want to be receptive.

To the good stuff. Yes, completely. Or I cannot do all that and say, I’m too busy and sit in a corner and kvetch about all the things that I don’t have the solutions for yet. Yeah, completely. I, it’s something I was thinking about is, and this ties perfectly into kind of where I want to go next with this is once we’ve achieved the thing.

We so often stop doing all the things that got us there. Yes. Right. And this isn’t just entrepreneurship. It’s in my weight journey. I get to where I want to go. And so it’s like, guess I don’t need to work out anymore. I guess I don’t need to eat well anymore. I, you know, uh, for me, I had, I had breast cancer in 2020.

Okay. I’m free of breast cancer. Guess I can go eat all the sugar again. And, you know, obviously that’s not the perspective I take, but how often we don’t realize. It’s no, no, no, no, like we got to keep doing all those [00:46:00] things. And in one of your podcasts, you said the work now is to not forget. Not forget. And I loved that so much because we’re all learning.

We’re all absorbing. So many of us, especially in the Prosper Network, like you have really called in and attracted people who are so interested and committed to growth and learning and reciprocity. And, but it’s, yeah, it’s. How do I not forget all these things? How do I continue to live in this? And I’d love to hear more about that.

You kind of alluded to that with some of these daily rituals you have, but can you say more? Yes, I can absolutely say more because that was the story of my life. And Since it’s such an ingrained pattern, it can come up for me at any time, right? That pattern happens when you’re using motivation to move you rather than inspiration.

When, when it’s like, I get so fat, [00:47:00] I can’t stand it. Now I’ll do the work I get so disconnected from my own inner being that I can’t stand it. Ah, now I’ll do the work like there. There’s a part of us that relishes falling into that contrast because we know that will motivate us to do the things that are good for us.

So what I think I have grown into from that experience from living that over and over and over again is to slow my role a little bit and to just be like, don’t get all jacked up about everything. Let’s just take a really calm, measured way. And do little things with great consistency, just little things with great consistency.

And that is what I mean by the practice life. You just do little tiny things with great consistency. So [00:48:00] you don’t ever run out of gas and have to give them up to then fall completely off the path. And then have to be motivated to get back on. Instead, I want to live by, I want to live in an inspired way, which is doing the things that we’re talking about, which is being available to the guidance, my own knowing about what https: otter.

ai This knowing of all things, you know, it’s the knowing of all things that we have in each one of us. And the excavation of that is through values and compassion for ourselves. Like instead of beating myself up for that old pattern, I would now say, Oh, you remember you were on that track and remember, [00:49:00] remember how it was so punishing.

Falling off, getting back on, falling off, getting back on. Let’s try a more compassionate way. Let’s let’s go have a bubble bath and let’s remember, let’s remember what feels good. Let’s just keep reminding ourselves what feels good are small movements. In the direction of our destinies, our dreams, our alignment, all day long, day after day after day.

Mm hmm. Yeah. I see that in so many of, like, you model that truly so well in your daily meditations and the rituals and the practices you have. The imagery that was coming up for me as you were talking was this idea of a fire. I think that motivation you were talking about is the visual of, like, dumping a ton of logs on the fire and maybe it blazes really, really big, [00:50:00] and then we set it and forget it and walk away.

only to come back hours later and it’s completely burned out. So now we have to start from scratch again versus kind of what you’re saying is if we stay engaged with that fire and gently place a log every now and then as it starts to go down, like we’ll never have to restart it. We’ll never have to restart it.

And it’s also just understanding the. How debilitating the restarts are, it just chips away at our own love for ourselves. And at the end of the day, any practices that I’m talking about or any improvements that we would talk about that we’re looking for in our lives are really about filling that love cup and jerking yourself around like that.

I mean, uh, here’s what came up for me. I remember the year and a half. I trained like crazy business, ran two half marathons and a week later, didn’t work out for five [00:51:00] years. I mean, that was, that was my story, you know, like right, right up to the summit of the mountain and done. Um, and then, and just understanding that when you’re, what these practices that I’m talking about and even the practice of, you know, body, mind, spirit, all of it, none of it’s one and done.

You’re not going to, you don’t get a medal and you’re done. It’s like, how can you make feeling good pleasure and the pleasure of being in this body with this spirit at this time? How can you with this mind that? Is spinning all the time. How can you have more pleasure and more enjoyment of your daily life experience?

And usually we’re going to say it’s all those things that we know are really good for us. And that’s why I did a podcast episode for the practice life and [00:52:00] I named it meditation isn’t Spinach And I said that ’cause see, I love spinach, but it’s the metaphor, right? Yeah. It’s not spinach. Don’t, don’t go to the meditation chair holding your nose like you’re gonna have to force it down.

This is, this is the pleasure. The pleasure of letting go of thought. The pleasure of just. commuting with your spirit. That is pleasurable. That is wonderful. So looking forward to it. Now you might have to coach yourself a little bit at first. You know, your mind is used to like scrolling, emailing, you know, doing a million things at the same time.

So it’s going to feel weird and you’re going to feel panic to sit and do nothing. Initially, which is why you coach yourself. This is so good for me. I’m really enjoying this. This feels really good. I know I’m just still getting used to it, but you know, you gotta, you gotta take yourself by the hand with [00:53:00] love.

Completely. There’s a couple of things I’m hearing in that. And I’m, so I’m getting my PhD in depth psychology, which is all about the unconscious. There’s tons of spirituality in this. And Carl Jung would say. Everything has soul, tree, money, and this idea of a, a relational life where I need to be in relation with my money in relation with my business.

And if I had a dear, dear friend that I. ignored for a month, that relationship would be in shambles and my business is the same way. But when I see it as I am in, this is a soul I am interacting with and engaging with that I need to nourish and feed. And it, even within my business, it needs to be reciprocal.

It completely changes the way we interact with it. Even something I think is simple as like my home. I need to be in relation with my home. And if I want my home to nourish [00:54:00] me, how do I nourish it? I love that so much. I’m ready.

That’s really good. That’s really, really, really, really, really good. And of course, I have nothing to write with, but I’m going to write this right down. I think that’s exactly it. That’s the crux of it, which is, first of all, everything has a soul. There’s the mineral kingdom, the plant kingdom, the animal kingdom.

I mean, everything has a soul. Everything is energy and we are in relation to everything. So to take that a step further, which is love your business. Even if you don’t have it figured out yet, even if it’s a bit of a mess right now, love it, love it, love it, love it, love it. You can’t hate it and think it’s not good enough and, and receive optimal, um, benefits from it.

It can’t deliver that when it’s hated and reviled. You’ve got to love your business. You got to love you. You got to [00:55:00] love your business. You’ve got to love this opportunity to be in a human body right now on earth. You’ve got to love your schedule. You’ve got to love the technology, you know, for women, my age, the technology can be a real barrier.

Well, here’s what I say. You better get over that. Or you’re just going to be sitting by yourself in a lawn chair in your front yard. You better get over it. You better, because this is, this is a portal to living. You know, this is the portal to the best possible life if you manage it, manage it well. So love technology, love what’s possible with it.

You know, love the opportunities that you have, um, to be. A person living on the planet at this time, no matter what’s going on, it is never, there’s never been a better time to be alive. A a [00:56:00] thousand percent to, to launch something, to create change, to find your authenticity, to explore, to navigate a thousand percent.

And I just think sometimes, and we’ll close with this, but it’s so beautiful that we, I, I’ll speak for myself. I, I want to disengage. I wanna set it and forget it. I wanna go, great. I made that workshop and now I never have to do anything with it again. And it’ll just do its thing and da, da, da. And the reality, when I think of that workshop I made as a person.

If I want it to keep thriving and nourishing me, I need to also nourish it. And what does that practically look like? Does that look like checking in with it once a month? Does that look like, et cetera, et cetera. But I just think, you know, you, your podcast, the practice life for me, the expansion of that is the PR the engaged life I am in relationship.

And if. everything is a relation or a soul or a person I was interacting with, how much differently would I [00:57:00] attend to it? That’s good. There you go. That’s it. That is why we all showed up. Oh, yes. This was so, so, so beautiful. I’m super excited. In the intro, I’ll share more even about my experience in the Prosper Network.

Awesome. Sharing some of the network, how much I love it. Um, and give maybe some more specific details. I know we’re kind of coming to the end here, but is, is there anything specific you do wanna say about the Prosper Network specifically and just what’s going on there? Well, that has. Become, you know, what entrepreneurship has done for me, which is really just, it’s been complete and total liberation.

And to offer that opportunity for women to come together and network and help each other, because that’s what was kind of missing for me. I was lucky. A couple people was like, I know who you are and you’re just fumbling around over there. Let me help you. And they gave me really good advice. But in the prosper network, everybody’s [00:58:00] building something.

And everybody knows a different piece of that and to have the opportunity to be supported and held and, you know, it’s overseen most closely by Angela and Melissa, who are rock star strategists, entrepreneurial strategists. Um, and I just think it’s, you know, to be able to come together and not feel alone.

Like you’re alone at your computer trying to build an empire. That’s what’s great about the Prosper Network. And what I really love the way we set it up is you also have access to everything in my other membership, which is all the personal growth stuff. So, um, it’s the best of both worlds. But in order to be in the prosper network, you have to have a launched business.

You have to have, you know, a business and I just, it makes me so happy. Like my dream is for that to be continued to expand and grow and bring in more women and more [00:59:00] women who need, who need to hold hands with other women in business. Yeah. Two things I just want to quickly say to that though. One is, I don’t know anyone else listening.

I’ve been in other network groups. that were super fluffy and didn’t really lead to much. And honestly, I didn’t enjoy attending and participating in, and I cannot express it enough. You, Angela, Melissa, the intention, the energy, like truly, truly. Because you have, I think, such a clear intention, you attract in those aligned people and there’s an energy that is so different.

I’m so glad. That makes me so glad to hear that. Well, you know what? You know what? Here’s what used to bother me. So I’m just going to gossip for a second, you know, cause I was like, well, am I going to do this thing? Am I going to do a membership? I was in the middle of teaching a 12 week course and everybody in the course is like, what’s next?

And I was like, Hmm, geez, I don’t know. And I’m like, well, maybe I [01:00:00] should do a membership. And so I joined a couple and I went, Oh, I see what this is. This is another money avenue for you to take my money while you take all your reused content and throw it up completely. Maybe I’ll never see you again. And I was kind.

You know, I was like, that is, I thought that was wrong. I was just like, that is so, you know, you know what I think about that? Well, this is the second point I was going to make, which is I, from the day I joined, I was absolutely blown away with how. How present you are in the membership. I was like. I am. I’m paralyzed.

Wait, she’s actually here? I’m there. It’s her membership. It’s her network. All the time. It’s not just like a face. I know. You just market it. I know. You have weekly calls. 24, 29. I think I’m in 26 or 27 events a month. And I’m, I’m in it. I’m answer. I’m, I’m commenting [01:01:00] on people’s posts. You, we are talking to you.

You are sharing with us. It’s not your face. And then like you pop in once. I hate that. I think that’s so wrong. I think that is like a bait and switch. Oh, join my membership. And you sign up for all these months and you never see the person. And I’m like, well, I saw that content on your Instagram. Oh my God.

What am I doing? Paying for it now. Completely. I know. So there’s just such, such an energy and an intent, you know, intention and a purpose so that you bring to it. And it’s amazing. And I can’t wait to show more. Well, this was beautiful. So fun. I hope so. I really, really enjoyed it. It’s so fun to just kind of chit chat and see where it takes us and see what, you know, psyche and the collective unconscious wanted to come out today.

I really think this, this, this being in relation is something that you should post about. And you should bring up in your conversations what you’re learning about that, because I think that is, that [01:02:00] is an additional piece to this puzzle about how do we have, cause here’s what it comes down to. How do we have a better life experience?

And you know what a life experience is a series of days. So it starts with how you get up in the morning, how you move through your day. How do we have a better life experience? Experience and it’s challenging our old patterns. It’s coming up with new perspectives, you know, just like I’ve brought three new perspectives into this year for myself.

And here I am at the end of the first month of the year. I am telling you, I’ve had an amazing month. that I wouldn’t have had without doing that work. So I think we’re onto something. I love it. Amazing. Well, thank you so, so much. You’re [01:03:00] welcome.